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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.09 08:23:12 -
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So, let me get this straight.
People who log in everyday all 3 alts, for 5 minutes, to shoot 1 NPC get +900k SP a month. Roughly a +50% boost.
This is a great idea, because:
[ ] Mindless robots make great players
[ ] Shooting 1 NPC a day is so much fun, it's the core of what makes EVE such a great game
[ ] Killing that 1 red cross will teach you so much about the game
[ ] You'll surely meet and engage with lots of wonderful people in those 5 minutes in some random highsec belt
[ ] Daily chores will help you be more creative and contribute to the sandbox in many new, exciting ways
[ ] ...
[X] None of the above and that's why this idea is actually horseshit
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.09 09:18:38 -
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Praal wrote:People logging in brings the game to their mind and exposes them to what is going on (via chat, patch notes, evemail from their corp, etc). If even 5 in 100 players who log in to do their daily SPs gets distracted into also doing some other game activity that can still cause 100s to 1000s of players to be more active in the game. Looking at it from a purely PVE point of view, CCP's basically saying:
'If you log on for 5 minutes to kill a rat, you get 10k SP x3, worth on average 50 mil ISK.
If you stay logged on, you can make another 50mil ISK in anywhere from, say 20-30 mins to an hour+ depending on what you do.'
That's definitely an incentive to stay logged in for more than 5 minutes, isn't it? 
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.09 09:32:42 -
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David Kir wrote:Yall people need to get out of your 1337 POS and stop circlejerking over how different and edgy EVE is.
This changes NOTHING. And if it helps one more newbro stick with the game, why the hell not. Hi newbro and welcome to EVE!
SP isn't all that important in this game, but since you're new you'll need at least a minimum amount to do stuff in this game.
So here's the deal: if you log in everyday to do an extremely boring chore, you can get some for free!
If you want even more, you'll need to immediately make 2 alts even if you have no idea what to do with them, cuz you can't miss out on those SP, can you?
Is this stupid and boring as f*k? Sure! That's why the vets don't really need to do it, but hey you do cuz you're new and need to catch up as fast as you can!
Happy grinding, newbro!'
Yes, newbros will love this and go tell all their friends how great a game EVE is. Not at all like those stupid smartphone apps...
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.09 10:23:32 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ruby Gnollo wrote:
Providing free SPs, but whatever various means helps incoming players to have more or less same opportunities than elders. Elders keep the most significant advantage : they fly ships quite better than newcomers would ever do.
New player 1 plays only on the weekend Newplayer 2 is unemployed bum/strudent(bum) or living the single life dream and plays every day. Newplayer 1 is disadvantaged to the tune of 50k SP every week they play. This is good how? To be fair, anybody with more free time can do more stuff in EVE (or any game, for that matter) than those of us who don't have/don't want to dedicate so much time.
The problem is that this bs is pointless and ridiculously unbalanced compared to any of the current PVE/ISK making activities.
It actually devaluates current PVE activities, since it's an easy way to make 50m ISK in 5 minutes every day.
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.11 16:22:52 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Well-written stuff Thanks for better clarifying your objectives.
I understand them, but if you're relating this to the skill queue you're taking things way too far!
In practice, the 24h skill queue limit meant people had to log in, on average, once a week or so. Simply because you'd often have a multi-day or even multi-week skill in training.
Going from once a week to every day is really an exaggeration.
Trying to see this from your perspective, the 'goal' of getting juicy SP needs to be achievable or else most people will just say 'f* this' and give up. For many of us, logging in every day and zapping a rat every single damn day is both unfeasible and obnoxious.
Not to mention doing it on all alts, which really does take time out of the 'oh while I'm logged in I might as well do something else' that you're trying to achieve.
So even if I continue to dislike this idea, for your own good and to actually reach your objectives I believe you should at least:
1) limit it to one char (any char) per account
2) make it a weekly or bi-weekly. or a formula like 'any 2 days/week', doable for example in both days of a weekend
Else I'm afraid you'll only get either people who just don't do it or OCD-type people that just do it robotically and then log-off.
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.04.24 15:16:01 -
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PSA because while on SiSi I was about to bang my head on my monitor.
Remember you can at least HIDE the on-screen 'Recurring Opportunites' infographic by clicking on the last small little icon on the right, at the very top left of your screen.
Phew, I was afraid this bad idea would haunt my screen forever!
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Gully Alex Foyle
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Posted - 2016.05.21 08:30:44 -
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Matt Faithbringer wrote:2) "I fully miss out if I do not find time" that's true. now thing about how much ISK you ARE MISSING ON BY NOT RATTING 23/7 EVERY DAY! Quite a bit right? Should this be stacking too somehow? It's quite different.
You can rat any time you want. Ratting for 4 hours once a week is the same as ratting 4 times a week for 1 hour. Dailies force you to play, you know, daily. Which is annoying for anybody that can't or doesn't want to.
Also you have countless alternatives to ratting for making ISK, from trading to exploring to scamming. You can choose the ISK-making activity that you like best and/or that gives you the best buck for your time. For most (if not all) of us, it's quite satisfying to learn about or think of more efficient ways to make ISK.
On the other hand, there's almost nothing that can beat 10,000 SP for 5 minutes effort.
So sure, you can just ignore it (I definitely will), but it definitely comes with the price of 'missing out' on something valuable.
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